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G Series - Pilot FeedbackDear Zoltan,
App. 2 weeks ago I
have called you to get an idea why one
of my 2 G3’s ignores all inputs coming
from P2. I expected to hear
that this cannot be or that I made a
mistake when I spliced the connector,
etc… You brought in your
engineer who explained how to open the
instrument and that there could be a bad
connection between 2 PCBs. This was exactly
the issue. I just had to connect the
boards and fit in the white plastic
spacer. After re-fitting the instrument
in the panel, it worked perfectly. Thanks for your
serious attitude towards your customers!
Thanks and best
regards Gerald
Subject:
feedback on G1
Yes please do post.
The more I use them the more I like them, excellent product. This is one area where you guys are lacking. I was surprised that I could find precious little comment on the G series before purchasing. I purchased based on study and my experience with my 610's. I think if you had a web page dedicated to customer feedback it would be a great sales tool. I have to believe that the vast majority of your customers will have very positive comments. I say vast majority because as you know there will be the occasional bone head that will be unhappy no matter what you do. So you have to accept the bad with the good.
Just my 2 cents.
Thanks again, best
regards,
Jeff
Carl
Hi Dan,
Well its like anything else it takes a while to get the hang of it. These are really great instruments! What I have found is that with the increased precision, you really do need to have tuned injectors. No my situation worked out really well: I found a dirty injector on #4 on the left. Getting that cleaned up & moving a couple other injectors got me to within .4gph on the GAMI test. On the right side after "musical injectors" I was able to get #1-4 all identical, with 5 & 6 peaking way too late (too rich). Those two have been sent to a shop that does a flow analysis & can lean them out to get them to peak with the others. So next week when I'm all done I'll have each engine with matched fuel flow/peak egt. When pulling back the mixture I'll get all 6 peak boxes nearly simultaneously.
Of
course
the
other
way to
do that
is to
spend
another
$800 per
engine
for GAMI
injectors,
but my
case
worked
out
unusually
well and
that was
not
necessary.
Thanks
for your
help. It
was very
interesting,
and at
the end
I'll
have
much
happier
motors.
Jeff
Carl
Cessna
310
Got it installed, and man do I love
it.....noticed right off the bat my #2
cylinder was running slightly cooler on
the egt's and discovered a minor intake
leak.
The egt's are so quick to respond I even
found what spark plugs were less than
perfect during the run-up.....thoroughly
impressed so far.
Install was pretty easy and
straightforward.
I installed the G1 on my personal
Comanche 250, but have already
recommended it to several others; I
think an engine monitor should be
required equipment!
Paul Nickell, Owner
Advantage Aircraft Services LLC
G3
vibration case study.
Question: Why would I want vibration analysis on an engine monitor?
Larry says:
"I had used the
Excel vibration graphing tool on
Insight’s website to print out the
vibration analysis data from my G3 over
a couple of flights for a baseline
benchmark.
After flying
the G3 for 8 months I also had a new 3
bladed prop installed on my Trinidad
Socata TB20
After 90 hours
I noticed grease, and had to have the
prop pulled and resealed. I was told
that the reseal would be covered under
warranty but that I did not need the
prop balanced again.
It felt
rougher to me, however, so I printed out
another vibration analysis which
confirmed more vibration after the
re-seal than before". To: Insight Subject: Balance Hi Dan, I am having my prop rebalanced this morning and will send you a new "after balance" chart as well as a couple more "before re-balance" charts later today. The shop tells me when they balance, they are correcting the vibration in the vertical axis only. I told them the Insight sensor measures in all 3 axis. Do you know if it is the X, Y or Z axis that correlates to the vertical that they are correcting? Larry To Larry The Vertical axis is the Z Axis on our sensor. The Left-Right lateral axis is Y. Because the prop spins in a plane defined by YZ, prop imbalance will contribute equally to Y and Z. X is Fore-Aft, and in theory would be relatively unaffected. Note that this definition depends on your sensor being mounted in the same orientation as the pictorial airplane on the sensor itself. If you've mounted it in some other orientation, you will have to translate it accordingly. We look forward to examining the vibration spectrums. Dan ![]() Vibration data of new balanced prop (showing some imbalance)
Vibration data of rebalanced prop (a lot smoother as you can see; better than new)
Hi Dan,
I owe this
"warranty" prop balance to the evidence
supplied by my G3 prior to and after the
prop reseal.
Conclusion:
A new balance
was approved under warranty.
Answer: A G3
color graphic engine monitor is one of
the few things you can put in your
aircraft that will actually pay for
itself.
G3 Pilot Feedback
I
recently upgraded my Baron B55 from a
GEM 1200 to two new Insight G3 2.25"
instruments. These color engine gauges
take engine management to a new level at
a very affordable cost. The upgrade used
my existing probes and wiring for the
EGT and CHT sensors and reduced the time
and cost of the installation
dramatically. I can now see the
temperature of every EGT and CHT
simultaneously in addition to the color
coded bar charts on a crystal clear LCD
screen. The lean boxes that show the
current EGT variance from peak EGT make
the leaning process very simple and easy
to monitor throughout the flight. On top
of that I get backup instruments for all
other key engine data to provide
redundancy to my unreliable legacy
engine gauges. The Insight G3
instruments make flying my plane even
more fun and safer than ever.
Joe Lechman
1976 Baron B-55
"During my first flight with the G3, I
very quickly learned the value of the
probe diagnostic functionality. It
turned out that this flight was also the
first flight with 6 new cylinders on my
Cessna P210 so it was intended to be a 2
hour, high power break-in flight On the
ground, during run-up, all my EGTs and
CHTs looked normal. However, 15 minutes
into the flight, the #3 EGT began to
show odd and fluctuating temperatures. I
was flying with my mechanic and we both
believed that we had a probe issue but
decided to head back to the airport and
land just in case it was something in
the new cylinder. Given our newness to
the G3, neither of us thought to look at
the probe diagnostics page until we were
actually on final. Once it dawned on us
that the G3 could tell us if we had a
probe failure or not, a quick glance at
the probe diagnostic page showed the #3
EGT probe at around 90 ohms resistance,
an obvious failure. The G3 made it very
easy to spot as the data for that probe
was displayed in red. Now that we were
confident that we had a probe issue and
not a cylinder issue, we continued the
flight, saving a complete cool-down
cycle on the new top end as well as the
time to un-cowl and diagnose the #3 EGT
probe.
Interestingly, back on the ground after
the flight, the #3 EGT probe again
showed 5 ohms. Clearly this probe was
only malfunctioning at high
temperatures, making it very difficult
to diagnose on the ground. Insight has
really touted this feature and I have
now had the real-world experience to
understand exactly why. Great job,
Insight!"
All the best,
Jim Baum
N5447A
New Graphic Engine Monitor from Insight Avionics!
It's called the G3 and I have one. It is
awsome! It provides more information
than you could possibly use and it's
only 2 1/4" in diameter! It is STC'd for
the Seabee so just put it in and send in
the 337 form and your done! Very
reasonable price also. Excellent
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Zoltan,
I have some time flying behind the G3 at this time. I thought I would give you some feedback.
Primary screen is very intuitive and head and shoulders above any EGT/CHT display I have ever used.
Leaning has been turned into a process that “even a monkey” can do.
Probe diagnostic screen will prove to be great in the future.
I was able to see a fouled plug immediately on run up by noticing the CHT of that cylinder dropping relative to the other cylinders.
Surprisingly I reference the EGT variation screen occasionally and find it very comforting.
As a point of interest, I am burning 1 GPH less than the G3 is indicating. I have spoken with an owner of a JPI unit and he reports the same condition. I have carefully measured how much the G3 is reporting burned out of each tank and then comparing it with the fuel trucks delivery upon fill up. Consistently each tank (I have five) is taking about 1 GPH less than the G3 had reported as consumed. Is this to be expected? Notice that the G3’s count is actually safer as I have more fuel left in the tank than the G3 thinks I do.
I must say that I love my G3 and will recommend it to everyone who sees it. Until the “page” knob is upgraded to a better quality component I will have to warn them of this flaw. For the panel space there is no better representation of the engine than your G3. Thanks for producing such an intuitive product and I hope to see it mature as you gain experience with it.
Sincerely, Lane Bush
I can tell you how
much I do love my G3 engine monitor. I
have had it for almost 1 year now. It
has never given me any trouble, And it does give
you a warm feeling about the engine. Here is some data
from my last trips.
Here also is a
picture of it mounted in my Malibu
Mirage N657MC.
Monty Chicola President
Zoltan
I wanted to tell you all that I have flown with the new G-1, which I only have two flights thus far, but it's worked perfectly. I totally love it. It such a nice upgrade from the 602 unit I've used for so many years. I was worried being an older guy that I wouldn't be able to read the CHT and EGT numbers because they are kind of small but the display is so good that it's not a problem. Also the color status on the bars makes for an easy quick scan and having constant EGT & CHT's for each cylinder displayed all the time is really slick. I now have a much better idea just what's going on in each cylinder then I ever had prior.
The top box showing the
temp diff. Lean or Rich
of peak is also really
cool and provides a
great reference for
adjusting the mixture. A
really nice job with it
and in the end it was
well worth the wait.
Regards,
Scott Macdonald
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